Episode 13

Year 2025Episode 1360 minFeb. 10, 2025
Episode 13

Amid warnings of a constitutional crisis, Jen Psaki breaks down the ways that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are laying the groundwork to openly defy court orders, and may already have. Former Federal Judge Nancy Gertner joins to discuss the judiciary's ability to keep Trump's illegal actions in check, as he and his allies push the limits of the constitution. Next, Jen is joined by Senator Ron Wyden to discuss Trump and Elon Musk's takeover of the federal government and why he believes their infiltration of sensitive payment systems constitute a coup. Then, Jen is joined by Representative Jasmine Crockett and PA State Representative Malcom Kenyatta, the newly elected DNC vice chair, to discuss Democratic efforts to fight back, including the possibility of forcing a government shutdown to stop Trump and Musk's assault on federal agencies. Later, Jen breaks down Trump's efforts to stack our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with people who put loyalty first, including asking new hires whether January 6 was an "inside job." She is joined by Representative Jim Himes to discuss his concerns about Trump's loyal tests and potential national security vulnerabilities posed by Musk's DOGE team. Finally, Jen shares a preview of her wide-ranging conversation with Governor Wes Moore - the first guest on her new podcast 'The Blueprint'.

Episode 13 has aired on Feb. 10, 2025 at 20:00
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