Episode 4

Jen Psaki points out the signs that are showing why the upcoming presidential transition may be much different than transitions of power throughout history. Jen is joined by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan to discuss the White House's efforts to ensure that aid reaches those impacted by the LA wildfires, where U.S.-led ceasefire negotiations stand between Israel and Hamas, and more. Next, Jen is joined by Representative Dan Goldman to discuss what the American public stands to learn from Special Counsel Jack Smith's report on Trump's January 6th case which will likely be released in the coming days. Then, Jen is joined by reporter Jane Mayer to preview the confirmation hearing for Pete Hegseth, Trump's pick to lead the DOD, and to discuss her reporting that the FBI's background check on Hegseth is lacking testimony from key sources. Later, Jen outlines the clear conflicts of interest that lie in the efforts of tech billionaires, like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, to align themselves, and their companies, with incoming President Trump. Finally, Jen is joined by Jennifer Rubin and Norm Eisen to discuss why they left their jobs to found a media outlet, The Contrarian, focused on combating authoritarian threats while maintaining independence and integrity amidst a media market saturated with billionaire owners.